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Insulted Findley storms out of meeting

01 Feb, 2012 08:37 AM
GREENS Councillor Amanda Findley stormed out of last week’s Shoalhaven City Council meeting following a heated exchange with Cr Gareth Ward.

The blow-up occurred over community feedback on council’s delivery program and operational plan.

Last year, only 10 people attended three meetings held to discuss the operational plan, leaving councillors wondering how to encourage more community participation.

Cr Findley called for community members to be invited to workshops in an enhanced consultation process.

She suggested a focused workshop of invited and interested people be held during the delivery program and operational plan’s development, including an opportunity for people in the southern Shoalhaven to have a say, and for the plan to be put on exhibition so people could make submissions.

Cr Ward suggested there were ulterior motives behind Cr Findley’s motion, claiming it was about “bringing in a group of friends to carve up the budget”.

He said the move was designed to allow a select group to “try to control the purse strings of the city”.

“I don’t believe it’s right for a group of people to take control of the process to the exclusion of the rest of the city,” he said.

When Cr Findley objected, Cr Ward referred to her as “shrieking from my right”. Cr Findley said she had been insulted and stormed out.

Earlier in the debate Cr Findley said people needed to feel their comments and concerns actually mattered.

“We need to inspire people to get them out of their homes,” she said.

She was supported by Cr Andrew Guile, who said last year’s process “was a dog’s breakfast as far as consultation went”.

“We need to suck this and see,” Cr Guile added.

Cr John Fergusson agreed, saying following the same process as last year and expecting a different result was “absolute stupidity”.

Other councillors feared there was insufficient time to set up and run a more detailed community consultation process.

Instead, they will follow a similar process to last year’s, with community information sessions in the north, central and southern Shoalhaven, and council issuing invitations to key community groups, including business chambers or community consultative boards, in an effort to get greater attendance.

A presentation on the delivery program and operational plan will also be given at the March meeting of community consultative bodies.

Cr Gary Kearney questioned why people were making such a fuss.

“I don’t know why we’re going through this exercise,” he said.

“If people don’t want to come they won’t, regardless of how much we advertise or what invitations we send out.”

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A Greens councillor hey?

Don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out!

Posted by Heywood, 1/02/2012 8:56:02 AM, on South Coast Register
A Greens councillor?

I thought we were keeping party politics out of local government ;-)

Posted by Menelaos, 1/02/2012 9:35:08 AM, on South Coast Register
Shrieking from my right?

Bordering on misogyny in my book. It conjures up imagery of her as a shrew having to be endured. Language not likely to be used to the other 11 male councillors.

Whether you vote green or not, Findley would have to be one of the more pleasant and genuine councillors in the room.

Posted by wink, 1/02/2012 9:44:56 AM, on South Coast Register
'Bordering on misogyny'

lol.

So if I said a woman was shrieking like a banshee, would that make me a misogynist too?

If that's the worst thing that gets said in politics (Local, State or Federal) then it's childs play. A person doesn't go into politics without a thick skin.

This is a storm in a Barbies tea cup. /sarc

Posted by Menelaos, 1/02/2012 10:26:17 AM, on South Coast Register
Councillor Findlay's behaviour is ladylike. Ward's is ungentlemanly. who was in the chair that allowed this sneering, and yob behaviour? Green?
Posted by NotMyRealName, 1/02/2012 10:26:30 AM, on South Coast Register
Let's get something straight - I was speaking to Council on this item on the business paper and Cr Findley was interjecting across the table whilst I was speaking. Whilst I understand that some politicians believe that this behaviour is appropriate – I wasn't going to stand there and allow her to interrupt me when I was making a contribution on the item. Cr Findley will tell you she believes in better standards of Councillor behaviour. If this is in fact true – perhaps she should treat others the way she expects to be treateded
Posted by Gareth Ward, 1/02/2012 12:26:03 PM, on South Coast Register
"The Taming of the Shrew" ?...lol

I agree with Wink, she is one of the more pleasant Clrs & she makes some good points regarding community non participation.

"leaving councillors wondering how to encourage more community participation"

...seriously? = maybe they should take note of the participation & comments on this site & they might understand why many people feel DISEMPOWERED in anything involving Council. Why bother having a say when it's always ignored?

I suggest Clrs read their laughable SCC community consultation policy & ask themselves if it walks as it talks?

Posted by my2centsworth, 1/02/2012 12:37:02 PM, on South Coast Register
Lets get something straight?

....them's fighten words...lmao

Come on Clrs...let's have a debate on community participation...or the lack thereof...

You want to know why community won't participate in your convoluted community unfriendly processes?.....well here's your chance, right here on this thread to find out.

Talk to the community & who knows, we might 'talk back' !!!

I'll give Gareth that much- he's at least posting & present at the only forum actually discussing the issue.

Where are the rest of you?

Still waiting for us to come to you?

Posted by my2centsworth, 1/02/2012 12:54:00 PM, on South Coast Register
Firstly - what is an Objection then. And how does one do it?

Secondly, I thought Mr Ward was up for more community consultation and community feedback ?

Posted by mp, 1/02/2012 1:30:49 PM, on South Coast Register
In one breath Clr Ward agreed with me and told the room that he thought better consultation was a great idea and in the next breath accused me of trying to carve up the budget with 'my friends'. My interjection was asking him to retract his insulting nonsense. Its interesting that Ward doesnt want a 'select few' to decide how the cities money is spent- when he is exactly that- part of a select few and woe betide any who have a different opinion. Community participation starts at the begining of any process- I dont have to remember I said that for I actually believe it.
Posted by Amanda Findley, 1/02/2012 8:53:49 PM, on South Coast Register
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