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Bypass backflip divides Berry

10 Feb, 2012 07:54 AM
A COMMUNITY again thrown into turmoil and uncertainty came out swinging as large numbers of Berry residents turned out for a public meeting on Wednesday night.

Called by Roads and Maritime Services to update residents on the latest developments in plans for a Berry bypass, the meeting showed renewed divisions in the town as a result of a southern bypass route being put back on the table about 18 months after a northern route was confirmed as the preferred option.

Many at the meeting were upset because an issue they thought was resolved had been reopened simply because experienced civil engineer Bruce Ramsay wanted to take another look at a possible southern route for the bypass and suggested there were major savings to be made.

Russell Baldwin summed up those sentiments when he asked, “Why should anyone in this room believe anything anyone has said?”

An advocate for proper process in planning, Mr Baldwin earned applause when he said the issue of a bypass seemed to have been settled, and for a long time RMS sent out information indicating no other route option would be considered as the community helped fine-tune details of the preferred route.

RMS general manager of infrastructure and communication, Fiona Court, said the organisation had an obligation to consider all submissions made.

“The days of simply ignoring submissions are long gone,” she explained.

Berry bypass project manager Steven Zhivanovich said the fact an alternative was pointed out by Mr Ramsay also resulted in it being taken seriously.

“When Bruce identifies an option then we take note,” he said.

Mr Zhivanovich said the situation now was different to when a range of route options were subjected to a desk analysis several years ago and routes south of Berry were ruled out because of costs and environmental concerns.

Some of those changes centred on improved technology for dealing with issues including acid sulphate soils, Mr Zhivanovich said.

While concerns about process and renewed uncertainty drew applause, there was also applause for people arguing for the southern route.

After being questioned about possible conflicts of interest, Mr Ramsay said he lived at Beaumont and drew up the route plans simply because he loved Berry.

“I think it’s a town that should be saved,” he said.

While much of the discussion during the evening centred on potential savings, which were still to be tested by RMS staff drilling wells and taking soil samples in flood plains south and east of Berry, Philip Thorniley said other factors needed to be considered.

“What are the best interests of the people of Berry?” he asked.

“We need to think bigger than what is potentially a saving of 10 per cent of the project costs, if the risk is destroying the amenity of our town,” Mr Thorniley said.

However Ms Court said costs would be crucial to the final decision made by governments, as the roads budget was under increasing pressure due to continued problems with roads caused by flooding in much of the state.

“I believe the NSW government will look very hard at every project in terms of cost,” she said.

Mr Zhivanovich said only if costs were comparable would other factors come into play in the decision-making process.

Prominent farmer Bob McIntosh said the region’s farming community and agricultural links needed to be a key factor in the decision.

“My real concern is that there is no suggestion of addressing strategic agricultural land and its value to Berry in your process,” he said.

“You ignore this at your own peril.”

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I have always believed that the road from Gerringong to Berry, or even right through to Nowra, should have followed the existing railway line. It would be on relatively level land and would have required far fewer land acquisitions i.e. far cheaper with less disruption to the farming community.
Posted by KEV, 10/02/2012 1:49:11 PM, on South Coast Register
What will it take to come up with a solution or more precisly when the by pass will commence. Perhaps the "knowledgeable'" engineers could also give attention to the North Nowra Link Road. More studies , more studies and still no progress. When can the beaurocrats that we pay so much money for their intelect make a decision. I guess it keeps them in jobs though!
Posted by Cooky, 10/02/2012 3:01:14 PM, on South Coast Register
It doesn't matter how many engineers and experts plan and replan, there will always be the naysayers and those who know best about building the road. Sort it out people, it isn't rocket science we arent building a space shuttle to fly people into space, it is a damn road, engineer it the build it, simple really. This place needs an enema honestly.
Posted by Nowra Cynic, 10/02/2012 4:39:09 PM, on South Coast Register
What you have got here is a bunch of ex Sydney Wankers who could not agree on how fat their wives arses look dressed in jodhpurs.

Berry is the absolute joke of the Shoalhaven. Anyone care to give me the population of Trendies versus "Real Local`s"?

Apart from the BS excuses it is all about property values-TRENDSETTERS!

Yep-The Old Chesnut NIMBY!


Posted by NILZERO, 10/02/2012 5:09:11 PM, on South Coast Register
Nilzero, that has to be the comment of the week but yet sooo true....

Problem most of the Berry people with history or an idea left long ago, and the sydneyites just rolled on in and screwed the place up...

Anyone for antiques...

Posted by Nowra Cynic, 10/02/2012 8:33:16 PM, on South Coast Register
Lets hope they dont find the little green frog ,as everything will come to a standstill again ,look at the roadwork they promised south nowra...
Posted by wooden shoes, 12/02/2012 3:17:16 PM, on South Coast Register
Dear Nil Zero,

My ancestory goes back 140 years in the Shoalhaven, I hope this qualifies me in your eyes as having an opinion that counts.

The southern alignment is the only true bypass. It will preserve the township of Berry in it's current state for the next 100 years

The farmers will be looked after - it is a matter of how much compensation they will get from the government. This is how the system works.

A lot of the naysayers are from areas not affected, such as Toolijooa and Agars Lane, they are creating a lot of negative stress in the Berry community to satisfy their own ego's.

Posted by cbr, 27/02/2012 1:34:38 PM, on South Coast Register
Wow! The person who instigated this debacle by submitting an ill thought out proposal is now saying that anyone opposed to it are doing so to satisfy their own egos? To say that 'the farmers will be alright' because they will be compensated is outrageously patronising to those whose farms have been in the same family for generations.
Posted by LR11, 27/02/2012 2:57:11 PM, on South Coast Register
@ LR11

agree totally. Farmers are probably not interested in compensation, they have every right to be alarmed by a proposal that could destroy their living.

To say people in Toolijooa and Agars Lane do not have a stake in this decision is ludicrous; the whole of the southern aspect and amenity of Berry will be severely compromised by an elevated highway and viaduct.

Posted by FL, 27/02/2012 3:18:27 PM, on South Coast Register
I would like to know from Mr Ramsey how a bridge 4.6m high and a viaduct at least 10m high cost the same per m2 to build? Also how the same applies to building an embankment for a road and building on flat land? These are your figures from your submission. Answer: they don't!
Posted by CH, 28/02/2012 11:19:18 AM, on South Coast Register

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CLOSER LOOK: Farmer Bob McIntosh joins Berry residents Jeff Evans and Andrew Killen to take a closer look at a map of bypass options during a meeting in Berry on Wednesday night.
CLOSER LOOK: Farmer Bob McIntosh joins Berry residents Jeff Evans and Andrew Killen to take a closer look at a map of bypass options during a meeting in Berry on Wednesday night.

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